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fuckyeahdisingenuousliberal:

[Picture: Background: 8 piece pie style color split with light blue and  green alternating. Foreground: White man with black-rimmed glasses  wearing a pink and black striped t-shirt, a small black bag strapped  over his shoulder, and visible tattoos on his arms. Top text: “Look, at least we got that warmonger out of office.” Bottom text: “Uhh, Obama’s warmongering is different. Because.”]

lol, legit.

fuckyeahdisingenuousliberal:

[Picture: Background: 8 piece pie style color split with light blue and green alternating. Foreground: White man with black-rimmed glasses wearing a pink and black striped t-shirt, a small black bag strapped over his shoulder, and visible tattoos on his arms. Top text: “Look, at least we got that warmonger out of office.” Bottom text: “Uhh, Obama’s warmongering is different. Because.”]

lol, legit.

logicallypositive:

stormpooper:

logicallypositive:

hehehe

Haha yeah fucking Obama giving Middle Eastern countries political freedom and democracy and taking out those tyrannical rulers who would otherwise kill three times the people, GOSH. And to think Obama even had the nerve to prevent ANOTHER depression in the U.S. AND kill Bin Laden!!!!! Seriously guise, the Devil sent us this president, someone oughta kick his booty for being such a tree hugger peace hippie.
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so many things wrong with this post, I don’t even know where to begin.
1) You’re completely ignorant  if you think Obama genuinely gives a flying fuck about Middle Eastern freedom. That’s why we were all buddy-buddy with Gaddafi until March 2011. And that’s why we still continue to prop up the tyrannical Saudi Arabian monarchy. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
The REAL reason we went into Libya was because they wanted to price their oil in something that isn’t US Dollars. Just like we did with Iraq. but I guess when the man has a blue donkey as his symbol that makes it all okay.
2) Oh yes, obama did so much to save this country from a depression. Boy, what a fantastic economy we are in! Nope, we sure as hell aren’t in a depression right now! I don’t see an actual unemployment rate (U3, not U1) of 17% or anything! Of course that’s all George W Bush’s fault, right? It’s not like Obama has done the exact same thing Bush has done! Oh wait….
3) Those were some sweet photos of Obama dressed up in his BDU’s lodging a bullet in Bin Ladens skull. Obama is such a brave military warrior working for the Navy SEALs. Oh wait a second……
In other words you have no idea what the  hell you are talking about.

logicallypositive:

stormpooper:

logicallypositive:

hehehe

Haha yeah fucking Obama giving Middle Eastern countries political freedom and democracy and taking out those tyrannical rulers who would otherwise kill three times the people, GOSH. And to think Obama even had the nerve to prevent ANOTHER depression in the U.S. AND kill Bin Laden!!!!! Seriously guise, the Devil sent us this president, someone oughta kick his booty for being such a tree hugger peace hippie.

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so many things wrong with this post, I don’t even know where to begin.

1) You’re completely ignorant  if you think Obama genuinely gives a flying fuck about Middle Eastern freedom. That’s why we were all buddy-buddy with Gaddafi until March 2011. And that’s why we still continue to prop up the tyrannical Saudi Arabian monarchy. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

The REAL reason we went into Libya was because they wanted to price their oil in something that isn’t US Dollars. Just like we did with Iraq. but I guess when the man has a blue donkey as his symbol that makes it all okay.

2) Oh yes, obama did so much to save this country from a depression. Boy, what a fantastic economy we are in! Nope, we sure as hell aren’t in a depression right now! I don’t see an actual unemployment rate (U3, not U1) of 17% or anything! Of course that’s all George W Bush’s fault, right? It’s not like Obama has done the exact same thing Bush has done! Oh wait….

3) Those were some sweet photos of Obama dressed up in his BDU’s lodging a bullet in Bin Ladens skull. Obama is such a brave military warrior working for the Navy SEALs. Oh wait a second……

In other words you have no idea what the  hell you are talking about.

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Ron Paul: More Progressive Than Obama?

eltigrechico:

REPRINTED FROM CHARLES DAVIS @ COUNTERPUNCH:

“Ron Paul is far from perfect, but I’ll say this much for the Texas congressman: He has never authorized a drone strike in Pakistan. He has never authorized the killing of dozens of women and children in Yemen. He hasn’t protected torturers from prosecution and he hasn’t overseen the torturous treatment of a 23-year-old young man for the “crime” of revealing the government’s criminal behavior.

Can the same be said for Barack Obama?

Yet, ask a good movement liberal or progressive about the two and you’ll quickly be informed that yeah, Ron Paul’s good on the war stuff — yawn — but otherwise he’s a no-good right-wing reactionary of the worst order, a guy who’d kick your Aunt Beth off Medicare and force her to turn tricks for blood-pressure meds. By contrast, Obama, war crimes and all, provokes no such visceral distaste. He’s more cosmopolitan, after all; less Texas-y. He’s a Democrat. And gosh, even if he’s made a few mistakes, he means well.

Sure he’s a murderer, in other words, but at least he’s not a Republican!

Put another, even less charitable way: Democratic partisans – liberals – are willing to trade the lives of a couple thousand poor Pakistani tribesman in exchange for a few liberal catnip-filled speeches and NPR tote bags for the underprivileged. The number of party-line progressives who would vote for Ron Paul over Barack Obama wouldn’t be enough to fill Conference Room B at the local Sheraton, with even harshest left-leaning critics of the president, like Rolling Stone’s Matt Taibbi, saying they’d prefer the mass-murdering sociopath to that kooky Constitution fetishist.

As someone who sees the electoral process as primarily a distraction, something that diverts energy and attention from more effective means of reforming the system, I don’t much care if people don’t vote for Ron Paul. In fact, if you’re going to vote, I’d rather you cast a write-in ballot for Emma Goldman. But! I do have a problem with those who imagine themselves to be liberal-minded citizens of the world casting their vote for Barack Obama and propagating the notion that someone can bomb and/or militarily occupy Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen and Libya and still earn more Progressive Points than the guy who would, you know, not do any of that.

Let’s just assume the worst about Paul: that he’s a corporate libertarian in the Reason magazine/Cato Institute mold that would grant Big Business and the financial industry license to do whatever the hell it wants with little in the way of accountability (I call this scenario the “status quo”). Let’s say he dines on Labradoodle puppies while using their blood to scribble notes in the margins of his dog-eared, gold-encrusted copy of Atlas Shrugged.

So. Fucking. What.

Barack Obama isn’t exactly Eugene Debs, after all. Hell, he’s not even Jimmy Carter. The facts are: he’s pushed for the largest military budget in world history, given trillions of dollars to Wall Street in bailouts and near-zero interest loans from the Federal Reserve, protected oil companies like BP from legal liability for environmental damages they cause – from poisoning the Gulf to climate change – and mandated that all Americans purchase the U.S. health insurance industry’s product. You might argue Paul’s a corporatist, but there’s no denying Obama’s one.

And at least Paul would – and this is important, I think – stop killing poor foreigners with cluster bombs and Predator drones. Unlike the Nobel Peace Prize winner-in-chief, Paul would also bring the troops home from not just Afghanistan and Iraq, but Europe, Korea and Okinawa. There’d be no need for a School of the Americas because the U.S. wouldn’t be busy training foreign military personnel the finer points of human rights abuses. Israel would have to carry out its war crimes on its own dime.

Even on on the most pressing domestic issues of the day, Paul strikes me as a hell of a lot more progressive than Obama. Look at the war on drugs: Obama has continued the same failed prohibitionist policies as his predecessors, maintaining a status quo that has placed 2.3 million – or one in 100 – Americans behind bars, the vast majority African-American and Hispanic. Paul, on the other hand, has called for ending the drug war and said he would pardon non-violent offenders, which would be the single greatest reform a president could make in the domestic sphere, equivalent in magnitude to ending Jim Crow.

Paul would also stop providing subsidies to corporate agriculture, nuclear energy and fossil fuels, while allowing class-action tort suits to proceed against oil and coal companies for the environmental damage they have wrought. Obama, by contrast, is providing billions to coal companies under the guise of “clean energy” – see his administration’s policies on carbon capture and sequestration, the fossil fuel-equivalent of missile defense – and promising billions more so mega-energy corporations can get started on that “nuclear renaissance” we’ve all heard so much about. And if Paul really did succeed in cutting all those federal departments he talks about, there’s nothing to prevent states and local governments — and, I would hope, alternative social organizations not dependent on coercion — from addressing issues such as health care and education. Decentralism isn’t a bad thing.

All that aside, though, it seems to me that if you’re going to style yourself a progressive, liberal humanitarian, your first priority really ought to be stopping your government from killing poor people. Second on that list? Stopping your government from putting hundreds of thousands of your fellow citizens in cages for decades at a time over non-violent “crimes” committed by consenting adults. Seriously: what the fuck? Social Security’s great and all I guess, but not exploding little children with cluster bombs – shouldn’t that be at the top of the Liberal Agenda?

Over half of Americans’ income taxes go to the military-industrial complex and the costs of arresting and locking up their fellow citizens. On both counts, Ron Paul’s policy positions are far more progressive than those held – and indeed, implemented – by Barack Obama. And yet it’s Paul who’s the reactionary of the two?

My sweeping, I’m hoping overly broad assessment: liberals, especially the pundit class, don’t much care about dead foreigners. They’re a political problem at best – will the Afghan war derail Obama’s re-election campaign? – not a moral one. And liberals are more than willing to accept a few charred women and children in some country they’ll never visit in exchange for increasing social welfare spending by 0.02 percent, or at least not cutting it by as much as a mean ‘ol Rethuglican.

Mother Jones’ Kevin Drum, for example, has chastised anti-Obama lefties, complaining that undermining – by way of accurately assessing and commenting upon – a warmonger of the Democratic persuasion is “extraordinarily self-destructive” to all FDR-fearing lefties.

“Just ask LBJ,” Drum added. The historical footnote he left out: That LBJ was run out of office by the anti-war left because the guy was murdering hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese. But mass murder is no reason to oppose a Democratic president, at least not if you’re a professional liberal.

There are exceptions: Just Foreign Policy’s Robert Naiman has a piece in Truth Out suggesting the anti-war left checking out Gary Johnson, the former governor of New Mexico who’s something of a Ron Paul-lite. But for too many liberals, it seems partisanship and the promise – not even necessarily the delivery, if you’ve been reading Obama’s die-hard apologists – of infinitesimally more spending on domestic programs is more important than saving the lives of a few thousand innocent women and children who happen to live outside the confines of the arbitrary geopolitical entity known as the United States.

Another reason to root — if not vote — for Ron Paul: if there was a Republican in the White House, liberals just might start caring about the murder of non-Americans again.

CHARLES DAVIS (http://charliedavis.blogspot.com) is an independent journalist who has covered Congress for public radio and Inter Press Service. “

For the weenies who won’t read the whole thing, at least read this.

 But! I do have a problem with those who imagine themselves to be liberal-minded citizens of the world casting their vote for Barack Obama and propagating the notion that someone can bomb and/or militarily occupy Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen and Libya and still earn more Progressive Points than the guy who would, you know, not do any of that.

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atomicsocialist:

atomicsocialist:

Imagine for a moment that somewhere in the middle of Texas there was a large foreign military base, say Chinese or Russian. Imagine that thousands of armed foreign troops were constantly patrolling American streets in military vehicles. Imagine they were here under the auspices of “keeping us safe” or “promoting democracy” or “protecting their strategic interests.”

Imagine that they operated outside of U.S. law, and that the Constitution did not apply to them. Imagine that every now and then they made mistakes or acted on bad information and accidentally killed or terrorized innocent Americans, including women and children, most of the time with little to no repercussions or consequences. Imagine that they set up checkpoints on our soil and routinely searched and ransacked entire neighborhoods of homes. Imagine if Americans were fearful of these foreign troops and overwhelmingly thought America would be better off without their presence.

Imagine if some Americans were so angry about them being in Texas that they actually joined together to fight them off, in defense of our soil and sovereignty, because leadership in government refused or were unable to do so. Imagine that those Americans were labeled terrorists or insurgents for their defensive actions, and routinely killed or captured and tortured by the foreign troops on our land. Imagine that the occupiers’ attitude was that if they just killed enough Americans, the resistance would stop, but instead, for every American killed, 10 more would take up arms against them, resulting in perpetual bloodshed. Imagine if most of the citizens of the foreign land also wanted these troops to return home. Imagine if they elected a leader who promised to bring them home and put an end to this horror.

Imagine if that leader changed his mind once he took office.

The reality is that our military presence on foreign soil is as offensive to the people that live there as armed Chinese troops would be if they were stationed in Texas. We would not stand for it here, but we have had a globe-straddling empire and a very intrusive foreign policy for decades that incites a lot of hatred and resentment toward us.

I have been fairly harsh towards Ron Paul in recent days but I still love this speech of his. IT really puts the war in Iraq into perspective for more conservative types 

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